But the point is that, while it may seem like pandering, the "friendzone" bit of Torgue's dialogue is just merely a representation of how people's beliefs can change over time, and how we don't want to be reminded of all the awful things we used to think were okay, but aren't now. Maybe that connotation has always been there. (A rather odd joke that I was not fond of, but a joke nonetheless) Now, however, I do see that it's used as a justification for someone to be angry when they are super nice to someone in an attempt to go out with them, but are struck down because they weren't honest about their feelings in the first place. I was never really bothered with the whole "friendzone" concept at first, because I thought it was kind of a joke. Now, the term is used primarily as slang, and I highly doubt that any psychologist would use the term idiot in their professional journals. I mean, "idiot" used to be a medical term for a person with a severe intellectual disability, and was used to classify the severity of the mental disability. The nature of terms change over time, too, and I feel like that's sort of taken into account here as well. We've all said something that we regret or that we are a little bit ashamed of, because we realize that it's hurtful or has negative connotations. That is addressed pretty well here by Mister Torgue. They mature, and they realize that they should be more cognizant of how their words affect others. He may have thought the term "friendzoned" was okay in the past, but he feels differently now, based on his experiences of how certain terms are interpreted by other people. ![]() This took place in the past, and Torgue's ideals have clearly changed in the few years since. It plays off of our expectations of what we think a tough guy should be.Īlso, it sounds like Torgue was backtracking a bit. Here is quite possibly the machoest of men who loves explosions and muscles, but he's kid of a huge feminist. It was VERY overdone, almost comically so, probably for the sake of irony. I dunno, from the Campaign of Carnage, the Attack on Dragon's Keep, and even the Pre-Sequel trailers, I would not really call it pandering. The five minutes that my husband allotted for me as we traveled to the next location was simply not enough.ĮDIT: /u/sigma83 found a video of this event, for anyone interested. Sorry for spoilers, but I just had to fangirl over this SOMEWHERE. ![]() I DON'T CARE IF HE'S A VIDRO GAME CHARACTER, HE IS REAL IN MY HEART. Mister Torgue is one of the best feminists in the world. (And yes, that includes his quote about the badassitude that is respecting ladies.) Also, you get a sweet AMURCAN gun. ![]() If you turn the light reactor in to Janey, you will be rewarded with what could possibly be the best Torgue dialogue in the whole damn series. For the "Torgue-o! Torgue-o!" mission, we could either take a light reactor to lunar gear head Janey Springs and get a laser gun, or we could do a favor for Mister Torgue and roll that reactor into the lava because lasers are F*CKING STUPID AND LIGHT DOESN'T EVEN EXPLODE. WARNING! This contains some mild spoilers for a sidequests in Borderlands: the Pre-Sequel! If you have not completed the "Torgue-o! Torgue-o! sidequest, and you wish to enjoy its surprises, STOP READING NOW!Īhem, yes, so I played the first few hours of the Pre-Sequel last night, and my husband and I were delighted to hear that Mister Torgue has made it to the moon.
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